BS6/Euro5 477 now possible - Racedynamics released the new V.4 Powertronic for the Hima

Sasa said:
I already proposed to get there if someone pays me a ticket, the proposal is still standing! :ROFLMAO:
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You are welcome to start a "go fund me" and publish it here - who knows how many future BS6 owners who also want a big bore kit crave for the last 5%. I would not sell the farm yet though.
 
It would have to be said that this Map is the best hope for the Bs6 and is quite likely underrated, PT has not been the main driver again.
 
sam2019 said:
You are welcome to start a "go fund me" and publish it here - who knows how many future BS6 owners who also want a big bore kit crave for the last 5%. I would not sell the farm yet though.
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I broke down and this homeless man helped me with his last dollar, can you help him?
Sounds reasonable to me:ROFLMAO:
 
Dool said:
So you didnt mark your throttle ;)
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No, I did not get what its good for. I mean Sasa developed the values for the map based on an existing dynoed PC map. throttle positions are already taken care in that.
 
Dool said:
It would have to be said that this Map is the best hope for the Bs6 and is quite likely underrated, PT has not been the main driver again.
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it is their ONLY hope. for now.
 
sam2019 said:
No, I did not get what its good for. I mean Sasa developed the values for the map based on an existing dynoed PC map. throttle positions are already taken care in that.
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The Marking of the Throttle indicates the level of involvement in the process, collecting Data is part of the process.

Thats how the RB has evolved and the PT is not yet proven except in a non scientific mish mash method. just my opinion.
 
Dool said:
The Marking of the Throttle indicates the level of involvement in the process, collecting Data is part of the process.

Thats how the RB has evolved and the PT is not yet proven except in a non scientific mish mash method. just my opinion.
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I suggest you start a new thread "how to optimize map making in the absence of a dyno".
I read your message but apart from thinking it unnecessary I also did not elicit from your post how to actually do it or under what circumstances. Running engine? while driving? with the notebook on my tank bag? - the entire idea behind this marking of the throttle does not come across something I understand - and on a broader issue: many of your "explanations" suffer from the lack of imagination what the prospective reader might or might not know or understand of what you just said - or the wider implications and technical environments.
You seem to assume that your reader is on the same page - so just a few bread crumbs throw in his direction will be good enough. They are not. Remember when I published a whatsapp Q&A with RD staff? you commented: "told you" - yeah, maybe you did BUT when RD explained it I understood it - when you tried to explain it I did not - hence the Q & A. Cut down on the Aussi humor and add more clarity would be my suggestion. This is a technical forum, not a sitcom.
 
V4 PT has a plug for the USB port that is easily lost :poop:.. (the V3 plug was fixed to the device!)
 

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Yes well lets be Technical then, that is why data collection is important as opposed to Seat of the Pants expressions given with no way of correlation.
Marking out the throttle is like trying to find where you are on a Map, you have to get the Data or you walk around a lot lost.

Look at the Software the X and Y axis relate to Revs ( which you can see on a Himalayan) and throttle position which you cannot.
So if changes to the Map are to be made both x and y must be known.
That is why I suggested marking the throttle as I did , just because RD explained it better to you it does little good if they neglect tell you this. It is crucial to the process. IMO
 
not the cable, the plug for the port
you cant use a cable for plug, there is no space for it under the pillion seat
 
sam2019 said:
not the cable, the plug for the port
you cant use a cable for plug, there is no space for it under the pillion seat
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Don't drive thru water over the seat, should be okay.
 
only using map2 the running seems a bit lean still, @Sasa any suggestions for fuel or maybe timing
 

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sam2019 said:
only using map2 the running seems a bit lean still, @Sasa any suggestions for fuel or maybe timing
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Neither. Unfortunately much of what you see in the spark plug is related to cruising, where your engine would normally spend most of its time.

I had already told you that in cruising the stock ecu kicks in and there is nothing the PT and its maps can do. Once the ecu switches to closed loop, the only way to enrich the mixture is thru an o2/lambda cheaterā€¦
This is where the fuelX comes in.

If you already have it, reinstall it back and try setting from 6 to 8 to see if that makes a difference.

It would surely do on fuel economy!
 
Told ya šŸ˜
The spark plug is not chopped so what I looks like is pretty much irrelevant.
FuelX
 
Good day folks! I have an Euro5/BS6 (late 2021) model, equipped with an open exaust (Delkevic) and intake (DNA), a Hitchcocks stage2 camshaft and a FuelX basic (without all the whistles). The bike is running great! My question is: If i add the 477 kit in my current configuration, would it run good, but just not at its full potential OR would it run like crap? i understand there still is no perfect ECU solution for it...

Cheers,
Ed
 
Hello @Eddy the Mad, by feeling, basing on your configuration, I'd say you're already not using the full potential of the bike, and running lean.

My suggestion would be to get a Powertronic beside the 477 kit and keep the fuelX mounted as well.

As discussed elsewhere the fuelx will cheat the stock ecu during the closed loop phase (cruising at constant RPM/throttle) while the PowerTronic would take care of the open loop phase.

My feeling is that your bike would knock on hard acceleration (without PT) and overheat in hot days, but I've been wrong in the past, so...
 
Hi Eddy,
when I got my new BS6 in 2021 I upgraded to 477 and tried with FuelX Pro which has more options (6 add. steps for more fuel - 10 in all, 2 lean, one stock).
Even with Fuelx pro the 477 ran like shit, did cut out and knocked. Later I added the PT when it was available and it still ran quite bad until with @Sasa's help we got the mapping right. then it ran great. So in my opinion the PT is essential. If you add a performance cam later the fuelx may come in handy though. I would keep it installed along with the PT and the mapping we provide.
 
Performance Cam fitted already. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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