crazy 6 gear story

[sam2019]

how did he get the parts? must be indian and still ...

 

[sam2019]

Bike is himalayan 411 and the gearbox is from scram440 with 6 gear and clutch housing is from scram440 and the slipper clutch is from 650 meteor.

 

[thony]

I was just about to post this. Yes, seems like there is a promising combination there.

 

[taus90]

oh boy this guy beat me to it.. its been a month i have ordered 440 gear shaft and ecu yet everyday SC guys just has no updates. but thank god this guy is doing R&D for everyone of us.. Using slipper clutch from meteor 350 did cross my mind but the torque difference would have burnt through the plates fairly quickly and was not entirely sure if it would even fit 440 gear. but using 650 never crossed my mind.

so hopefully as soon as i get 440 ecu and gear shaft will order the 443 HT BBK hopefully i dont have to make changes to engine head to accommodate larger valves. For now Ill keep an eye on this guy

P.S. - I m not sure how this will fare Red box ECU and FI/carb system as there is one more gear to provision for., but for euro 5 411/scram 440 ecu will be a direct swap without much tinkering

 

[sam2019]

P.S. - I m not sure how this will fare Red box ECU and FI/carb system as there is one more gear to provision for., but for euro 5 411/scram 440 ecu will be a direct swap without much tinkering

for one there is no 6th indicator.. I wonder what these guys will see

 

[sam2019]

For those of us who have dev status - you know we have tried this since 2023. I could never get the parts from RE though, must have tried 10 times about.
I was successful in ordering 2 sets, one for @barima who is the 6-gear boss around here. Crossing fingers that it now works out.

 

[taus90]

for one there is no 6th indicator.. I wonder what these guys will see

My theory is if the gear sensor is not changed. screen will display minus for the 6th gear.

 

[barima]

My theory is if the gear sensor is not changed. screen will display minus for the 6th gear.

It will show 5th gear. I tested this a long time ago, i think its in the dev section. You should be able to hook up a universal indicator.

 

[taus90]

It will show 5th gear. I tested this a long time ago, i think its in the dev section. You should be able to hook up a universal indicator.

well that guy tested it out it does indeed show - in place of 6th gear in speedometer, the only solution is to also change the gear sensor or get a universal sensor.

 

[barima]

well that guy tested it out it does indeed show - in place of 6th gear in speedometer, the only solution is to also change the gear sensor or get a universal sensor.

Yeah could be the case since he changed the shifdrum. I tested it experimentaly with the 5 speed drum which has a position for 6th gear but is blocked obviously.

 

[Shere Khan]

Following, this upgrade would be neat

 

[Shere Khan]

Reposting some additional pictures courtesy of Ricky Panggam on other social media platform.

These are the 440 replacement part numbers for the six speed transmission. Panggam said that no other parts are required to convert the 411 to six speed but spacers and washers. If anybody can order these please keep me updated because I could be interested in buying too.





Some additional pictures showcasing some differences

 

[Shere Khan]

May be the case to rename the topic in "From five to six speed 411 conversion" or similar?

 

[barima]

Reposting some additional pictures courtesy of Ricky Panggam on other social media platform.

These are the 440 replacement part numbers for the six speed transmission. Panggam said that no other parts are required to convert the 411 to six speed but spacers and washers. If anybody can order these please keep me updated because I could be interested in buying too.





Some additional pictures showcasing some differences

Thanks for the input. We are still working on this in the developer section. Because parts availability and completeness of the conversion set is an issue, this has been an ongoing project. Maybe @sam2019 can chime in for putting you on the "waitlist" maybe?

 

[taus90]

Reposting some additional pictures courtesy of Ricky Panggam on other social media platform.

These are the 440 replacement part numbers for the six speed transmission. Panggam said that no other parts are required to convert the 411 to six speed but spacers and washers. If anybody can order these please keep me updated because I could be interested in buying too.





Some additional pictures showcasing some differences

i have already ordered the parts, just engine casing is left. also i am waiting to swap my 2022 himi with 2021 bs6 himi with separate ECU for better redbox compatibilty

 

[Shere Khan]

i have already ordered the parts, just engine casing is left. also i am waiting to swap my 2022 himi with 2021 bs6 himi with separate ECU for better redbox compatibilty

Actually, as far as I understood from Panggam post, it shouldn't be required to change the 411 engine carter to fit the six speed transmission... he posted the picture just to highlight some differences in internal design. Also he fit a slipper clutch and that might require a different engine carter.

 

[taus90]

Actually, as far as I understood from Panggam post, it shouldn't be required to change the 411 engine carter to fit the six speed transmission... he posted the picture just to highlight some differences in internal design. Also he fit a slipper clutch and that might require a different engine carter.

unfortunately panggam post is very vague and we have to rely on guess work so in my understanding parts essentially required for 6th gear are, gear shifter drum, gear shaft assembly, gear shifter shaft, engine side cover.

 

[Shere Khan]

unfortunately panggam post is very vague and we have to rely on guess work so in my understanding parts essentially required for 6th gear are, gear shifter drum, gear shaft assembly, gear shifter shaft, engine side cover.

Do you happen to know the replacement no. for the 440 engine side cover or are we missing that at the moment?

 

[taus90]

Do you happen to know the replacement no. for the 440 engine side cover or are we missing that at the moment?

yeah unfortunately that's the part i m missing

 

[sam2019]

Do you happen to know the replacement no. for the 440 engine side cover or are we missing that at the moment?

which part do you mean?