New BS6 Hima 477 design plan using the 440 ECU/TB

Dool said:
I do not see how the Injector would open and let fuel into the engine unless it is told to, its static state is closed.
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well, I guess you are wrong, first of all it would be useless to have it inject some fuel if it wont go passed the injector
and second, it worked to get the otherwise reluctant 500 with 440 TB to start.
 
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sam2019 said:
well, I guess you are wrong, first of all it would be useless to have it inject some fuel if it wont go passed the injector
and second, it worked to get the otherwise reluctant 500 with 440 TB to start.
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I think you guessed wrong, your flicking the switch 3 times then getting a result is not very scientific IMO.
By turning on the fuel circuit the pump pushes the fuel into the Injector hose, ( of course this outlet can be used to transfer petrol to another motorcycle but that is not relevant here) the flow of fuel into this line is stopped by the injector and held at a set pressure level by the release valve.
Any amount of fuel getting past an injector would mean it has failed.
I could be wrong.
 
well, maybe the result was just coincidence, wouldnt count that out. but it repeated again and again whilst no switch the bike would not start, also repeated. ultimately the data set was very small. once our Greek friend gets his set we might find out more.
 
So i was talking to my friend who is also a RE mechanic. His suggestion in the topic is: get the programmer, code the stock ECU and remove fuel x altogether from the equation. We ll try the ECU/TB 440 route at first, but if it doesnt work we ll just reprogram the whole ECU to make it work.
 
Well as a matter of fact I contacted some Italians who program RE scram bikes in Italy about my scram. They said they only programs stock bikes aiming at gaining 3-4 bhp. My bike and I quote "too highly modified" to program. So I found a racing bike programmer in Athens Greece who usually deals with Ninjas and cbrs and street fighter bikes , he said he can dommy scram. ECU based on our research is from continental, so it's doable. I will keep you updated.
 
I plan to send one 411 Hima/Scram ECU plus the 440 ecu I have to Italy for reprograming. the 440 ecu I hope to get to full 477 support and possibly find a switch that takes the 2nd o2 sensor out of the equation. Pablo has already done stock 411 ecus to fit the 440 so I hope we can get this also done there.

also read here

sam2019

Thread 'Remapping the stock BS6 hardened ECUs'

Meanwhile our friend Pablo from Italy says he has remapped the stock ECU of a BS6 Hima to fit the 440 cylinder of the new Scram (which I had sent to him).
I still try to figure out which device he used to accomplish that task - English is not his first but I think third language (after Spanish and Italian)

This is what he wrote:

Mounted on a euro5 (year 2023), it runs very well, with the original control unit, I can then remap the control unit, changing all the fuel and carburetion parameters, so the bike runs very well....
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First diagram is torque and the second power, stock...
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I received this answer from toptuning.it, as i quote

"Good morning,
Thank you for reaching out to us.
I’m sorry to tell you that we only work on stock vehicles, our software are Stage1.
We also don’t have an office in your area. The bike must be physically present here, with the key turned on and the display panel active, in order to install the new software.
Additionally, every remapping requires a test ride using telemetric equipment.
We apologize for any inconvenience and remain available for further inquiries.
Greetings
Davide
TopTuning Italia"
 
I cant remember every detail of this thread but the current state is: whoever buys a 440 cylinder from us gets a "voucher" to be able to do a reduced 100 Euro ECU update to fit the 411 ECU to the 440 engine. This involves sending it to Italy by mail and also pay for the shipping both ways. Time is about 2 weeks for shipping and doing. Its not in the shop yet bc currently it is very hard for us to source the cylinder (RE does not send them freely like they do with the 411 and j-engine 350s). If you are interested contact me via PM and I will discuss current options with you.
 
Well i m planning to get a 477 kit, but i have a 2022 bs6 himi (TB/ECU combo) and as of now it seems PT v4 is the only solution to go along with it, and concluding by your post on other threads its a pain in the abs to get it 100% configured and based on this thread you indicated that 440 ecu could be a possible match along with fuel x pro.

and the last development on this thread was that @brotherpaul1911 was supposed to test 440ecu on his bs6 411 with upgrade kit somewhere around the end of august.
 
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taus90 said:
brotherpaul was supposed to test 440ecu on his bs6 411
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havnt heard from him in a while. maybe his interests shiftet - it happens :cool:
btw: if you put an @ sign in front of the name and spell it correctly the member gets notified that he was mentioned - sometimes it helps ...
 
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I guess after we figured out that the yellow engine light will ALWAYS be on due to the missing 2nd o2 sensor on the old model that the 440 ecu would query it seemed not so sexy anymore. Especially since our Italian partner does a stock ECU reprogramming relatively little money (for our customers only) - but you have to ship it to him and pay the shipping both ways.
 
Sorry for going AWOL for a while guys. I have not lost my interest at all, but after my surgery I had to relocate to a small town on the west coast with very limited access to workshops and technical supports I had back in athens ( my mechanic back in Athens just won the RE competition in prague btw). I am still trying to recover and rehabilitate, and undergoing physical therapy but im doing ok, hoping to be my old self in months time. I will keep you updated as I try to make it work when Im back to my old self !!!
 
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